• “There’s no question that’s happening. But what I think is fascinating is how this whole shift is categorized as a shift to the far-right. Whereas if you look at this woman, Giorgia Meloni, who has become Italy’s first [female] prime minister. I wouldn’t categorize her as far-right at all. I would call her a fiscal conservative, in fact, bordering on moderate. So I think this is a classic tendency from the left to over-demonize anyone who is conservative and to brand them immediately far-right and sort of make it some stigma to beat them with.”

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